tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post5967012830553089134..comments2024-01-16T10:48:25.428+00:00Comments on Drools & jBPM: JBoss Drools vs JBoss RulesMark Proctorhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/03304277188725220501noreply@blogger.comBlogger17125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-35696019684022464172007-07-15T18:06:00.000+01:002007-07-15T18:06:00.000+01:00Mark, I told you so, but no one listens to me. No...Mark, <BR/><BR/>I told you so, but no one listens to me. Now that I am retired you all see the wisdom of my words :P<BR/><BR/>+2, also a RHEL/Fedora model is enough separation of products without creating the confusion that is dodging you.adt43wt342https://www.blogger.com/profile/07557608193924044365noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-63324049524843223802007-07-12T21:13:00.000+01:002007-07-12T21:13:00.000+01:00+1 definitely :)+1 definitely :)Geoffrey De Smethttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10118333179703404539noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-90001904901638608682007-07-10T08:13:00.000+01:002007-07-10T08:13:00.000+01:00+1 for JBoss Drools.+0.9 for Drools (standalone wo...+1 for JBoss Drools.<BR/>+0.9 for Drools (standalone word)<BR/><BR/>I am tired of telling and writing about "JBoss-Rules, formerly Drools"...<BR/><BR/>regards,<BR/>GernotDr. Gernot Starkehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04395266267293141818noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-78276735699919101832007-07-10T04:56:00.000+01:002007-07-10T04:56:00.000+01:00Drools is a very good. Let us stick with that. JBo...Drools is a very good. Let us stick with that. JBoss Rules or JBoss DRules may be relevant only to use it once as an introduction or to make a mention.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17749649040470284554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-69508697684611037762007-07-10T02:55:00.000+01:002007-07-10T02:55:00.000+01:00+1, Drools is a way better choice for all the reas...+1, Drools is a way better choice for all the reasons you mentioned. Don't worry about the "childishness" of it - we're all developers, we don't care. And those that do care, are probably too stuck up to use OSS anyway.Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16266278993047498062noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-87909191963023080342007-07-10T02:05:00.000+01:002007-07-10T02:05:00.000+01:00+ for JBoss Drools --philippe+ for JBoss Drools <BR/>--philippeAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-66121110612741755312007-07-09T19:20:00.000+01:002007-07-09T19:20:00.000+01:00Posting to mailing list from Dave Hamu:As a long-t...Posting to mailing list from Dave Hamu:<BR/>As a long-time member of Jboss Rules/Drools community, first, I want to<BR/>thank the team for quoting me in the Drools 3.0 documentation. It's<BR/>nice to know that there are people in the community who respect my<BR/>opinions. I didn't realize that my comments made it into the document,<BR/>but I'm honored.<BR/><BR/>In regard to the name game...<BR/><BR/>I have to admit that as an old-timer, I had some difficulty switching to<BR/>the Jboss Rules moniker. Overall, I prefer the Drools branding, due to<BR/>the fact that it harkens back to the history of the technology that the<BR/>Drools team developed. <BR/><BR/>Speaking of history & age, my age and subsequent memory loss prevents me<BR/>from recalling the genesis of the Drools name. Was it an abbreviation<BR/>of a sorts for "Declarative Rules"? <BR/><BR/>- DaveMark Proctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304277188725220501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-17933559069960996832007-07-09T18:27:00.000+01:002007-07-09T18:27:00.000+01:00Put comments around "JBoss Rules" otherwise it'll ...Put comments around "JBoss Rules" otherwise it'll just pick up documents that say JBoss and Rules; but probably aren't talking about JBoss Rules.Mark Proctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304277188725220501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-13844472830987461832007-07-09T18:13:00.000+01:002007-07-09T18:13:00.000+01:00+1 to JBoss Drools.Don't like the name but I also ...+1 to JBoss Drools.<BR/><BR/>Don't like the name but I also hate JBoss Rules! I my opinion, only makes sense to return to Drools if, in formal environments, we prefix it with 'JBoss'.<BR/><BR/>Curious results in Google Fight: <BR/>http://www.googlefight.com/index.php?lang=en_GB&word1=Drools&word2=JBoss+RulesBruno Duartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02919486966823250022noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-75752650647116978472007-07-09T18:09:00.000+01:002007-07-09T18:09:00.000+01:00Yes I've seen JBoss JRules used in our mailing lis...Yes I've seen JBoss JRules used in our mailing lists and else where, and Googling on "JBoss JRules" returns a large number of worrying results :(Mark Proctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304277188725220501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-72237766430881139102007-07-09T18:04:00.000+01:002007-07-09T18:04:00.000+01:00+1 for Drools - another problem I see with the nam...+1 for Drools - another problem I see with the name JBoss Rules is that people shorten it to JRules, which really creates confusion.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-78302325038889385182007-07-09T17:10:00.000+01:002007-07-09T17:10:00.000+01:00+1 I love utilize the original name of Drools. I ...+1 I love utilize the original name of Drools. I am constantly fumbling over saying JBoss Rules.Ron DiFrangohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17489618571530887897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-34587956179486050902007-07-09T16:50:00.000+01:002007-07-09T16:50:00.000+01:00I can understand the difficulties with any of the ...I can understand the difficulties with any of the approaches:<BR/>- JBoss Rules is formal, hard to make a 'short name' for.<BR/>- JBoss Drools has, as you say, some negative connotations for some.<BR/>- JBoss DRules might be a good long-term strategy, but would only make the problem worse in the short-term. <BR/><BR/>With all that in mind, I agree that JBoss Drools seems to be the best of the available choices.Geoffrey Wisemanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05205826495553720705noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-1787939309889059612007-07-09T16:48:00.000+01:002007-07-09T16:48:00.000+01:00I am also fine with going back to the "Drools" na...I am also fine with going back to the "Drools" name. It's not the greatest name to use when speaking to large enterprises, but when we move to the platform, Rules won't be a sufficient name either. <BR/><BR/>I'm a sucker for tradition, and I'm pretty sure that hard core drools users still call the framework by it's real name.James Williamshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15267080015777583054noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-54477660269932328802007-07-09T16:14:00.000+01:002007-07-09T16:14:00.000+01:00+1.Drools is definitely a better name to use, comp...+1.<BR/>Drools is definitely a better name to use, compared to JBoss Rules. I have seen many questions related to the naming where people have asked whether "JBoss Rules" can be used in a non-JBoss environment, mainly because they thought the name meant it was a JBoss application server specific product.Jaikiranhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08503182723143814781noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-15167057334930285252007-07-09T16:13:00.000+01:002007-07-09T16:13:00.000+01:00Yes agreed, we are moving to a platform in our own...Yes agreed, we are moving to a platform in our own right, and beyond just Rules. With Ruleflow already in, and we should have CEP/ESP later this year and Solving. For this reason I was thinking of platform name too, something like JESP - Java Expert System Platform. Figured I'd cross that bridge once I get to it, but yes Drools could end up just being one piece tech in an AI platform.Mark Proctorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03304277188725220501noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5869426.post-60807860193647160812007-07-09T16:01:00.000+01:002007-07-09T16:01:00.000+01:00+1 for going back to Drools as the core rule engin...+1 for going back to Drools as the core rule engine technology name<BR/><BR/>I do feel that a more encompassing name is needed for the offerings/value added things like the IDE integration, etc. That is the things that make it a BRMS rather than just a Rule Engine.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com